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bob brown-9851Registered Feb 2026Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?A muscular comic book characterWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?Extra large, like the size of the biceps/legsDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but primarily female growthDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do …
mango happinessRegistered Jan 2026Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?A muscular comic book characterWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?LargeDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but primarily female growthDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you prefer to see?Fan ArtHow do you …
mango happinessRegistered Jan 2026Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?A muscular comic book characterWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?LargeDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but primarily female growthDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you prefer to see?Fan ArtHow do you …
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[email protected] Jul 2023Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?A muscular comic book characterWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?Extra large, like the size of the biceps/legsDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but primarily female growthDo you like adult situations?Yes, with male and female growthWhat kind of characters do you …
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Does everyoe know that premium supporters see get weekly content on the website ? GrowGetterComics.com Its been like that for years, just not too many reminder posts. Anyway, here is a remake of Super Beings, kinda interpreted and recreated by Nurs in a more complicated (it was confusing for me) storyline. Great colors, great art …
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Merry Christmas – you can thank Shadowninja for contributing so much to make this a reality, free for everyone, now on the site Muller 2 is coming also quite soon (in a couple days, 15 pages)
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Click the link to access it – available to comic tier members This is a new story, it was inspired by one of our fans, a German fitness girl who wrote to me and wanted to make a comic like this, for a long time. Eventually ideas turn into dreams and dreams become real. Like …
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lllllRegistered Apr 2025Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?Choose an AnswerWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?Choose an AnswerDo you care to see male muscle growth?Choose an AnswerDo you like adult situations?Choose an AnswerWhat kind of characters do you prefer to see?Choose an AnswerHow do you feel about veins?Choose an AnswerDid you enjoy …
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lhaRegistered Oct 2024Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?Extreme proportions, unable to move around freelyWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?LargeDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but females biggest at the end is importantDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you prefer …
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mango happinessRegistered Jan 2026Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?A muscular comic book characterWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?LargeDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but primarily female growthDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you prefer to see?Fan ArtHow do you …
uggla33Registered Aug 2022Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?A muscular comic book characterWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?Like a normal personDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but primarily female growthDo you like adult situations?Yes, with male and female growthWhat kind of characters do you prefer to see?Choose an …
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lhaRegistered Oct 2024Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?Extreme proportions, unable to move around freelyWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?LargeDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but females biggest at the end is importantDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you prefer …
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IvanRegistered Jul 2025Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?Very muscular, biceps the size of a headWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?LargeDo you care to see male muscle growth?Not at allDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you prefer to see?Original CharactersHow do you feel about …
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Once or twice a year, were able to blow it out with at least 3, sometimes 5 comics in a month Were going to try like hell to make July one of those months Its been a little quiet, hopefully that perception will go away very soon Dear patreons – Thank you very much for …
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anon-6310Registered Mar 2025Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?Fantasy sized, biceps double the size of a headWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?Extra large, like the size of the biceps/legsDo you care to see male muscle growth?Not at allDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you …
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sergioRegistered Feb 2023 ydenisRegistered Jan 2024 Here is an animation we made from the comic. It took somehting crazy like 48 hours to put together. The work included adding in new parts by drawing and coloring them, adding in new areas to the comic that were not drawn yet and many many many hours going …
Here is an animation we made from the comic. It took somehting crazy like 48 hours to put together. The work included adding in new parts by drawing and coloring them, adding in new areas to the comic that were not drawn yet and many many many hours going over the effects. Plenty of female …
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Were thinking to potentially make the comic tier a slightly higher price ($17 or $18), for NEW subscribers but be 100% sure to lock in the current price for existing subscribers. Potentially making a chance on January or February of 2024. One thing we have seen a lot of sites do is, offer some content …
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Earlier in the year we did a fan appreciation month where we released 3 comics instead of just one Heres hoping that Dec wil feature at LEAST – A Boogie comic, selection TBD (sorry those guys need a Xmas break this time, so shorter than usual) – Worst to First FIVE – Charged! remake from …
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One thing that really separates good and bad artsits is their understanding and attention to detail with anatomy, regardless of size or even realism level. Omitting mucles often times just looks bad Here is a something that might be helpfu for aspiring artists
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Comic 2 of 3 this month is ready to go Seems all the site issues are gone (fingers crossed, thanks for your patience) Next Magic Cloak coming in a few days Thank you everyone for your patience during the downtime
Or so it seems, big thanks to a patron who is helping a TON with this It seems there is still some bug, and it was down for a short time last night, but not much compared to the past Ill start repsonding to DMs for those who told me about this problem soon, we …
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oooooOOOOOOooo yeaahhhh Naturalman does a good job and hes definetly getting signed for another comic Customer Appreciation Month of July continues with its first of three full length comics to be released! So, should there be an Angela 2? What should happen? Comic available to Comic Tier subscribers
well, not sure if this was ever released here or not, or who gave me the original video that we finished (bad memory) Also, we are sitting on strike #2 for youtube, so I had to make this adult only The site is acting up, and we are trying our best here to troublehshoot it
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Or I guess it should be July? Anyhow, is this a good idea? See the link above to news of what is coming up and some other things we are working on Let me know if we should publish more of these
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Once upon a time, most websites were self-made by the owner or webmaster Most of the content on the internet was on websites like that. There was some stuff on Yahoo! Groups ————– Now (it seems) most of the content is hosted on big corporate sites (tumblr, instagram, discord, reddit, etc) GrowGetterComics.com, like Shadowlordinc.com, amaz0ns.com …
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There are a million AI art creators coming out now, and while (naturally) Im not the biggest fan of AI art, it can be worth a fraction of the time watching normal art, at least so far. Alas, we have made a channel with (up to daily) videos just having fun making lifelike versions of …
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hey everyone Feel free to join the free AI art server Soon well have contests with cash prizes
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remember the comic that was abruptly stopped? Well, its ALMOST done AND The Curse Part 2- also almost done Yes yes yes. 2 comics this month and left beind 3d, many pages almost done and another 3d comics, almost done and and and a fan talking with the Heidi artist, discussing some good ideas, and …
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Check out https://growgettercomics.com/the-power-of-suggestion/ GrowGetterComics.com for a new weekly comic 12 pages out now for comic tier subscribers 3 pages for all 3 new pages each week Art by Bulushon, Story by Gribble, Produced by GrowGetter
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Alright guys, well over 30 pages (B&W) your monthly comic is here Big big thanks to Bulu for legging this one out at the last minute so we could have something this month Available to all active comic tier patreon subscribers growgettercomics.com/the-bar THANKS THANKS THANKS to all subscribers, we have some good stuff in …
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Cast your votes Thumbs up = +1 Thumbs down = indicates that its not worth showing Red Circle = should delete Also, you can join and make your own art here https://discord.gg/5JRTsAhq We will start to do weekly or monthly winners for the ones that get the most votes
nikitapankRegistered May 2024Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?Very muscular, biceps the size of a headWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?LargeDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but primarily female growthDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you prefer to see?Original CharactersHow …
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Well (warning its NSFW sometimes) https://app.growgettercomics.com/version-test/ No email/info required, just create any username Mobile phone is preferred Swipe left if you dont like Swipe left if you do like The image with the most right swipes is the leader This is just a test server, later we will clean it up and release a better …
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Yep, at the AI server we trained the Fan Art Friday work, so you can make your own AI images (with strange muscles, short hands, all the other defects that will keep the artist GB gainfully employed here hopefully for a long time!) Join the link above!
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yep, we are trying again! Not the AI server, but just a regular server for those of you on discord
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Another Anime FAF thoughts on this new artist (tuk) we are training?
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I never thought people would want printed comics, but there are some artsits who sell printed comics, pretty well If it was something available, with special editions, etc – is it something you would want to buy? Im a digitial guy, so no hard feelings if the answer is No (kind of expecting it)
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Yes, we are continuing this one and its going to be GOOD with TONS of growth but also feats of stength the muscles arent the only thing growing, well likely do 25+ pages maybe close to 30 – who does that? WE DO why because of your support! YESSS
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Well everyone, thanks again for your support In the beginning, it was a few pages a month Now its A Fan Art Friday More Gribble comics resuming every Wednesdays New Nursul Pages coming Mondays So that means by the end of the month, new content at LEAST 3x weekly and than a big monthly comic …
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Just for fun, we took many colorists (12) on a tryout for the same page of the The Mysterious Book. Always looking to improve The last one was ours Was this fun to see?
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I think its done, 81 pages total! Equal to about 4 full sized comics I think it wasnt going to well towards the middle but we worked a lot with the aritst (me and the W2F artist) and we think its pretty good now, happy with the way it turned out Stay tuned, Monday at …
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Rather than make it part 2, part 3, Im going to opt to title each chapter or section of comics Gribble might have a different name suggestion This one will run through what was already made by FFF and THAN, after that we will be in the clear with newly not yet illustrated territory. Thanks …
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wheeeewww its been hard https://growgettercomics.com/the-crush-formula/ This should show in Chinese, German and very soon in Spanish does it work? is it helpful? I know there are bugs, but we are trying to hammer it out and soon offer all comics in these 3 other languages!
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its a really old school FMG site – anyone recall it, or know if the author is still in the scene?
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137913791379Registered Apr 2025Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?Fantasy sized, biceps double the size of a headWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?As much as you can fit in thereDo you care to see male muscle growth?Not at allDo you like adult situations?I dont want to answerWhat kind of characters do you prefer …
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My first fan art comes from @rogueFMG (check him out on Patreon!) Super excited to get this commission (do you want to commission this artist?) It was also made here https://www.patreon.com/posts/magna-realistic-64056079 and here https://growgettercomics.com/magna-in-3d-female-muscle-growth/ and also here https://growgettercomics.com/magna-rise-of-an-ultra-villainess/
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Wowowowow only because of Patreon support are we able to make things like this HUGE thanks to all the supporters who make animations like this possible If you liked this, me too and the goal is to continue to make more These are much harder to make than comics, but could you imagine if we …
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Yesssss Finally a release that is time with a trend Natalie Portman got pretty jacked for this role Whos next?
Some or many of you might be familiar with the Heidi comic here https://growgettercomics.com/heidi/ I think its time to continue it – but where do we go from here? Please DM me if interested to help out with the story (lets not ruin the surprise for anyone)
Sorry team, I know we should have at least 3 pages a week this was the artists first try at really big muscle did he do good? Only 2 more pages left on this comic
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Sorry team, I know many of you wanted the original outfits, but the artist wants to do his own thing, not just copy the original comic, so I let him go that way This is Super Lucy, with the original title As long as everyone likes it, this one can go much longer than the …
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https://www.deviantart.com/naturalman3 been a fan of this artist for a while and quite soon will have an image with the two girls flexing
The comic reveal for next month will be there as well, either Super Lucy or the Magic Cape
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Well, Gribble and I really want someone to win the contest to get a free commission page so —- here are some more hints as to who the Rogue enemy is – guess below in the comments section! This character is a woman. This character has appeared in multiple forms of media (comics, animation, live …
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In about 18 hours, could be a little more (to comic tier subscribers) If we can get it out earlier that will certainly happen Artists are blamed for being unreliable, but in this case its the tech guy on our end Thanks to everyone for the patience, we tried hard to make a great issue
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ntd ntd-6549Registered Jun 2025Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?Fantasy sized, biceps double the size of a headWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?LargeDo you care to see male muscle growth?Not at allDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you prefer to see?Original CharactersHow do you …
yesssss finally done! now to try to line up all the systems for this release — Thursday BIG BIG thanks to all patrons thanks for the support, the faves, the likes, the comments everything else W2F-3 is up NEXT (sometime in April) some cool ones coming along after that and more Rogue this week and …
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It came to my attention that some of you do not know about growgettercomics.com Most or all content eventually goes there, be sure to scroll down to see older comics Soon there will be a blog and some other small things, so I suggest checking back from time to time if you like our work …
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well, it might be around the end of the month, but Crush Formula 2 is coming for all comic tier patrons W2F3 is coming the month after! (April)
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alex2003Registered Feb 2025Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?A muscular comic book characterWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?As much as you can fit in thereDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but primarily female growthDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you …
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Do you like the extended version? We made this one bigger Should we make a previous FAF character BIGGER? or start someone new Write it in the comments! new poll coming soon
I like the skills of this artist a lot as with all new artists, we have to coach them a lot on anatomy and getting them drawn in the specific way most of us like ’em but Ill def be doing more with this one
I started working/training with this new artist and shes doing great! Its up in the air whether we will do pinups, some comics, etc At the moment, one idea is to do small 1 or 1.5 page mini comics about the W2F characters, taking place at various times between the main comics, eg when they …
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Are there any famous/classic male muscle growth scenes which would could use a female version? I already did Altered Beast video game here Manthomex did a Tom and Jerry where the mouse is female others?
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Hey everyone At the beginning of the month (when funds replenish) Im going to continue with this FMG animation artist For now, Im tapped! (6 comics at a time is costly) Does anyone want to commission this artist? He made this – If yes, DM me! https://www.patreon.com/posts/57916342 That animation was $150, as a reference
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Ver 0.07 is here, just about 30+ new renders, a couple scenes overall Heidi is back https://mega.nz/file/tbAiHDLT#pMU7lyArVWAtjqZjhIl3HkFfjFsDQt0uk-361DU0FLg PC https://mega.nz/file/xLI1mYzQ#EnUVkevV7LR_LmZlA0kHlze58scAuWIioOsCFXubTvY Mac https://mega.nz/file/BeRS2bJZ#X4pR0f4LkasxAiBjKWnrYI2FdQN8a4Wt8N73D27oeXw Android Sorry iphone guys, it doesnt seem possible to port to that
Hey everyone – really excited for this release! A story by Gribble! Art by Boogie, a talented new artist who worked side by side with the W2F artist Help from SuperCDR It will get sent via email to everyone, same as FMGym2 was sent (DM if you didnt get it) Expect an email Wednesday with …
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Originally released here on patreon in early September the comic is now viewable on growgettercomics.com The artist we found for this one (who has since taken a project elsewhere) also made this animation —– What do you think about making a comic that has animations within it? As the patronage continues, this kind of thing …
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Choose or add suggestions in the comments! Titania with the power stone. upcoming Black Cat part 2 as well
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I have been asked about commissions from time to time, figured a post was due Please fill out the form if interested Thanks for the support!
Updated with more of an explanation: There are no plans to release the comic individually sold on growgettercomics.com as the other ones have been. While one comic might be profitable, things like Heidi, the animation, many other things are not and overall costs have been higher than the money in. It seems our choice now …
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I have a lot of $1 tier people on here still and its important you know whats going on. Earlier this week, in an attempt to generate more revenue for more art, I decided in my mind to start phasing it out. There will still be some voting, still be some content available here and …
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The artist (who I really like) decided to make a visual novel type game version, rather than a plain old comic. I suppose we can easily turn the screenshots into images, but I am really digging this concept. It doesnt seem out of reach to make something on the app stores for both platforms …
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We are releasing issue 1 for free on GrowGetterComics.com and will release issue 2 for free soon as well. Meanwhile, in the next day or so, we will release a full comic (Super Beings) to all $5 patreon supporters – thank you for your support! https://growgettercomics.com/blogs/free-mini-comics/super-soviet-woman
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Brainstorm with me! I was thinking about making a MG comic from POV angles only, with two characters. Here are some ideas that come to mind: #1 – Something like how Left Behind was, in the first person of both the guy who’s girl becomes super powerful in front of his eyes and also from …
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Erza was recently featured in a 5 panel – keep it going or someone new? vote below!
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Just playing around, this is still in progress (working to get the biceps bigger..hard in 3d) https://growgettercomics.com/blogs/free-mini-comics/magna-in-3d Check out the original here https://growgettercomics.com/blogs/free-mini-comics/magna-rise-of-an-ultra-villainess
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Big thanks as always to all supporters here. To those who dont know, my goal is to bring new artists into the FMG and related universe that were not doing art before. You can see that jomar and bulushon are now constantly making art for others, and hopefully there will be more to join in …
This comic is a couple years old now, time to release it for free to everyone. I think after 2-3 years of a comic being around, Id like to release them for free. If you purchased this comic in the last couple months, shoot me a DM for some credit. Issues 2 and 3 …
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There is a fun comic in progress about girls who get moved into their video game and level up, get huge, etc Going to release it to the $5 supporters as a way of saying thanks, and sorry about Galatea going away. Is it better to release a few pages at a time (as they …
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https://growgettercomics.com/products/the-fmgym https://gum.co/zShqv Some Worst2First2 samples coming soon also, as soon as I can find them. Hopefully that comic comes out in a few weeks.
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What if there was a girl who discovered she could get powered up every time she was shocked? Building out this storyline now
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Hey everyone I was traveling and than got pretty sick, really sorry about that. Still unwell but good enough to start posting. Good news is that the artists didnt get sick so I have some new stuff Ill be posting in the coming hours – Heidi pages – Big preview for a comic coming Sunday …
I didnt bother to add text bubbles, wanted to evaluate the art, Whats good, what is bad – what could be improved? FMGym comic is DONE – going to be released Sunday lots of previews will be posted here Heidi will continue soon with some adult content!
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Girl puts on a stolen ring and transforms into a superhero What do you think? Overall not bad perhaps Seems to be lacking something – emotion? Write in the comments what you think – will think of some other things Also, will do a Heidi poll to see who she has sex with
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Multiple choices allowed – lets try to make everyone happy with how the story progresses Thanks to all the supporters so far!
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TheFreezer79Registered Mar 2025Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?A muscular comic book characterDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but primarily female growthDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you prefer to see?Choose an AnswerHow do you feel about veins?Some, not too muchDid …
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I just want to give a big thanks to the supporters I have. For a very long time I was an anonymous lurker until I decided to try making comics. Only through the support of my patreon followers here and those who buy my comics, am I able to continue it. If you are enjoying …
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Hey everyone – Hopefully a couple pages of the Galatea Issue 2 comic this week — The story is going to be that Supergirl and Lois Lane get pumped, but Galatea will have a trick up her sleeve – started the outline for a new comic, with a 3d artist — A guy obsesses about …
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A new series where the Patreon followers will be able to influence the path.
A new series where the Patreon followers will be able to influence the path.
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Here is the concept of a before / after and the story (so far) goes as follows – its all up in the air so far Thoughts? Backstory (this can be a page or two) Heidi was a girl who didnt like being a college student She was rich, but she was out of shape, …
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It took me a long time, but it was a fun comic to make. Its pretty much nonstop muscle growth, see the link below https://gumroad.com/l/ggc2 Ill prepare a more official release on my site in the coming week. Thanks to all those who supported me Contains female and male muscle growth
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Its all done, I just need to put some text in the last few pages
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Thoughts – https://growgettercomics.com/magna-new-villainess-comics/ Still need to work on the cover a bit Is the format better? webcomic vs traditional comic
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however its going adult: Next page up 1 – Rogue is standing about 20 meters away from professor X, both are facing each other, standing on a platform of some kind (cerebrum?)2 – She is now sitting on his lap, and barely fits in the chair3 – Another angle of sitting on his lap, showing …
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lhaRegistered Oct 2024Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?Extreme proportions, unable to move around freelyWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?LargeDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but females biggest at the end is importantDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly female + femaleWhat kind of characters do you prefer …
minecraftRegistered Jan 2025Show preferences PreferencesHow big do you like your characters?Fantasy sized, biceps double the size of a headWhat are your preferences on Breasts/Butt size?Extra large, like the size of the biceps/legsDo you care to see male muscle growth?I like both, but females biggest at the end is importantDo you like adult situations?Yes, but strictly …
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